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vsa01



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:53 pm Reply with quote

Hi,

I was wondering if you could help me identify this peahen. I have never seen one like it before in the UK. Its quite striking so when I saw it for sale (as a peacock!) I decided to get it.

I thought that it might be a hybrid but I cannot see any Green traits. Its the same size as the rest of my India Blues, there is no yellow behind the eye & the crest is a normal fan.







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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:04 pm Reply with quote

I am not a complete expert, but I would say that is a young IB blackshoulder male - probably 2008 hatch...slightly possible a midnight. I would also say a pied becuase of the white head and extra white in the body and tail. Blackshoulders when young have the black and white to the underbody I will call it. My young midnight blackshoulder male (2007 hatch) looks very similar to that in the body, he just has the blue head instead of white. It is definately not a hen, too much color in the neck. So whoever sold it as a peacock was correct.

Either way...a beautiful bird!

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

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vsa01



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:10 pm Reply with quote

Hi Jennifer,

Thanks for your help, Well I don't think its possible that it is a midnight because as far as I know there are not any in the UK. Like you I did think that it could be pied or at least have some white in it. I was actually thinking about the white on the throat under the head as maybe being an indicator of this.

As for gender, I know it is difficult from photos when you cannot see the bird in the flesh and I also fully agree that the green on the neck would indicate a young male in any other circumstance but it is defiantly a peahen! Very Happy I am 100% sure of it, I also don't think it is a young bird.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:09 pm Reply with quote

Hi vsa01 ~ I asked on of the experts to take a look at your photo, but he couldn't get his answer to submit. Here's what he said:
Looks like an older spalding blackshoulder hen, high % green. The spur on the leg looks like an older hen; yearling male spurs would be larger. Spalding hens do get more color on the neck - see green and blue.

Your photos are very good!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:31 pm Reply with quote

Jon
It is a spalding blackshoulder hen it hard to tell the percentage of green but I would say around 50%
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:32 am Reply with quote

Well, shows you what I know...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:36 am Reply with quote

Jennifer, I know far less than you do. I was looking forward to the posts on this to see what the opinions were...

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vsa01



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:34 pm Reply with quote

Hi All,

Thanks for the help with identifying this peahen, I wouldn't say that Jennifer.. If its any consolation I have been keeping peafowl for well over 10 years now and I didn't have a clue what it was. Maybe with it being a hybrid the colours can fall in a random way.. it is most likely just chance that this bird resembles a young male.

I am glad you enjoyed the photos, In way of thanks here are some more of my birds.


My 11 year old Black shoulder Peacock.

2 year old White Peacock

2yr old Green Peacock dealing with a piece of banana!

2yr old Green Peahen showing epistatis in the neck.

Green pair sunbathing.

Thanks once again for all the help!

Jon
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:54 pm Reply with quote

Oh my gosh, Jon, your photos are FABULOUS. Would you please consider submitting a few of them to James Hill for the 2010 calendar? Wow.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:38 pm Reply with quote

Oh wow.... your pictures are truly excellent! If you're an UPA member, submit some pics and maybe they will end up on the front cover? They use member submitted pictures for that.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:49 pm Reply with quote

Great pictures! Beautiful Birds!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:40 pm Reply with quote

vsa01, AWESOME photos !!
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silvergramma



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:05 pm Reply with quote

Now that i've seen one i want a green,,, heart was drooling over that bird.. OMG BECKY!!!lmao someone find me one.. quick,,,for i spend the money on something less gorgeous... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:03 pm Reply with quote

I too have a green neck black shoulder peahen. Hatched from a blue white wing hen (not sure what she is grayer then a blue) and most likely my white Spalding. I have free roaming peacocks in Arizona. Mine looks just like the hen you had a photo of. I will try to attach a photo. I want to reduce my birds; I have 11 free roaming peacocks and have 9-10 chicks a year. I didn’t want to sell this bird till I knew what it was but it appears it got the green from Spalding. Appreciate the insight.

Cindy

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