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JenniferB
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:24 pm Reply with quote

I purchased some eggs from a friend who was ill and could not handle taking care of all of the eggs she was getting. They are marked very well and growing! So, I was wondering what I may get from these combination's.

Pied opal IB blackshoulder

IB pied opal blackshoulder

I am going to take a stab at this and guess that all birds will look blue split to opal. What I don't have a clue is the blackshoulder vs. barred. I am going to guess that they will be barred as well.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:24 am Reply with quote

Is that two separate pairings of pied opal x blackshoulder and pied x opal black shoulder? (personally I like to omit the Blue/Barred as it's the "default" if you know what I mean.. makes typing it all out easier)

Black shoulder is recessive to blue so yes all chicks will be blue(split for BS). Just like opal is recessive.

So if I've understood your pairings correctly, then you got it close- all birds will be split for opal.. but also split for black shoulder plus either one of: white or pied.

May be prepared for surprises such as the blue being split for BS, in that case half of the chicks would turn out black shouldered. As a rule, when cross questions are asked, they are answered as if the parents are pure for the traits in question.. like Blue x Black shoulder= 100% Blues, split for black shoulder is the "correct" or rather the simplest answer.. just too long or may be confusing if it's attempted to include the blue being a possible split(if not known).

I really would love to see pictures of pied opals! Opal is one of my favorite colors(maybe it helps a little bit my breeder pair and their black shoulder opal son are the nicest, calmest and extra friendly birds... I do love the soft grey tones too)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:54 am Reply with quote

Thanks Kevin.

Well that is the way that it is written on the eggs, so I am guessing that this is how it goes. So one is a pied opal and the other is a IB pied. And one is a IB blackshoulder and the other opal blackshoulder.

opal pied and IB Blackshoulder pairing

and a separate egg

opal blackshoulder and IB pied pairing

So all birds will look blue and split to opal basically? Unfortunately I pretty much knew that they all would look blue. I have never seen an opal in person and was so hoping I was wrong. Maybe someday I can get an opal. Maybe I can get a picture of the pied opal parent from the owner to post here for you!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:12 pm Reply with quote

If the pairings is as you think they are.. you guessed right, blues. Unless the pied & black shoulder parents are split and the breeder didn't tell/write it down..

In any case, if they hatch out all blue, they still are genetically valuable, if bred together as adults they will throw a nice range of colors! Pied BS opal, BS opal, pied opal, white opal, etc on top of blues and blackshoulders in similar range..

Sure hope there's a picture of the pied opal! Wink Email or message it to me privately if necessary..
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