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burdgurl
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:51 pm Reply with quote

hope everyone is getting geared up for a great breeding season with nice healthy hatches !

Wondering, how can you tell ( visually speaking ) a Java Male from a Hen when they are just under one year old ?

Thanks if you can help !
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:59 pm Reply with quote

Hey Burdgurl,

they can be a bit tricky to sex. I find the easiest way is to check to see if it has a saddle. Only males have the saddle which is located on his back, the scale like feathers that start at the shoulders leading to its train. It took me a long time to sex my java peacock and he finally got 1 eye feather this year at 2 years old. Good luck with the sexing, its a real head banging process Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:58 pm Reply with quote

Thnk you so much for your response !

Looks like I have " 1 " for
sure male and the other is Question due to having what looks like the molt going on .
Hopefully I will be able to tell soon that about the one w/ the " bad" feathers .
Just got them last week so time will tell.
Thanks again !


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:39 pm Reply with quote

Good luck with them, I hope you do have a pair! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:43 pm Reply with quote

Hi,

Perhaps this article would be useful for you? I wrote it for when people buy my own birds.

http://www.galliform.es/post/1306556768/greenpeafowl

If not you could post a picture.

Regards,

Jon

edit:

I have just had a look at the photos of some of my birds at a similar age. I think the best thing to look for is the orange primary feathers on the wing and the amount of patterning on the tail feathers.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:33 pm Reply with quote

Vsa01,

I wish i would of have stumbled across your page a year ago. Thats really the first time I ever see a page with ways to sex java greens. Thanks for posting. ANDY

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:35 pm Reply with quote

Oh my gosh that page is really cool! Most websites just tell you one way to tell the difference like the brown on the face or the striped tail but I like how you cover many ways to tell them appart, I need to add your website to my links of good peafowl websites. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:36 pm Reply with quote

Vsa01,

Thanks for the post regarding identifying the sex of green peafowl.
It is by far the most detailed I have seen to date.
Excellent.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:04 pm Reply with quote

Vsa01,

Thank you so much for leaving that link. By far it is the best I've too have ever seen per sexing these Javas.
I will post some pics. of mine soon, they need to " chill out" some more . Laughing

Anyone going to be selling/shipping out any Java eggs or bronze this year?
Am interested if you are, feel free to P.M. me.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:59 am Reply with quote

Hi,

Thanks for all the nice comments. I am glad its useful.

Hopefully yours will be settling down a little by now Smile

Regards,

Jon
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:08 pm Reply with quote

Hi to all
http://www.healthgene.com

this is who I use for all my bird sexing , and allso they can tell if the birds are related you can also take blood from a known Java and get a blood sample from one your not sure of and see if it has mixed genes or the same as the pure java, if any seller refuses you a blood sample of the bird you are buying I wouldn't be buying any bird from him
Good luck and have fun with all your birds

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:39 pm Reply with quote

Desert Wind,,Do they state that they will give you a test to see if it is pure Java? What is their data base for pure Jave birds ? The last time I visited with them they would only do the sex and if the bird was related to each other . I would like to have the DNA of my Javas.. Who did you talk to ? thanks George
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:24 pm Reply with quote

OOOOOPs
big boob boo
yes you are right George after reading over and over it is just relationship of birds , I was always thinking that they were also talking about the genes themselfs and being able to compare a pure to another . but you had to know the one bird was pure to start with in order to compare the other one to but that is not the case . thinks I will drop them a line and find out.
When a person pays alot a money for a bird and he trusts the seller you seem to second guess yourself over and over for you see the birds from the wild and you start looking at your own, they never seem to have the same body structure
even to have the relationship test done they charge 88.00 per sample
tickets are basicly book for Kansas City , Mo hope to meet up with you there
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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:06 pm Reply with quote

some guy on ebay was listing Javas there recently saying his male had been DNA'd and that his male tested pure and that his lineage could be traced back to the last legal import of these birds.
I dunno.

Anyway, here is the latest update of what the birds I bought look like.
Java's or high % spauldings? One I think is def. a male, the other I still am having trouble with for he still looks like he has the molt going on in his saddle area.
These are young birds, maybe just one year old now .
Their legs are much longer than my other birds and the vocalizations sound more like a chicken, if you will.





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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:23 pm Reply with quote

Here is a great website for helping you tell between the males and females. Look at the face that should help a lot peahens will have the brown loral patch and the peacocks will have a blue one.

http://www.galliform.es/post/1306556768/greenpeafowl
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